Trinity Episcopal
Church and Rectory, Sharon Springs, NY
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Speaker:
James Bowmaker
Background: James
Bowmaker is the oldest person born in the Village of Sharon Springs.
He shares memories of the Trinity Episcopal Church and its members in
days gone by.
Interviewer:
Did you grow up in Sharon?
Bowmaker: Yes
Interviewer:
Please tell me something about your childhood.
Bowmaker: You know, that's a long time ago. Well, It was the
average, we grew up in the average ways, with lots of friends, you know,
lots of school chums. There wasn't very much activity at the school
though, you made your own activities, and the majority of us were very
fortunate to have what you call playhouses, some of us had two rooms,
and other ones only had one room, and they entertained different elderly
people at around the town at different Saturdays. And, another thing
we did which was very illegal, we broke into all the hotels, even, our
dearest friends' mother's hotel, that w knew backwards and forwads.
Interviewer:
What were your parents like? What kind of jobs did they have?
Bowmaker: My mother was a typical housewife. My father was a
salad chef at the Beechnut Hotel in Canajoharie.
Bakkom: Brothers
and Sisters?
Bowmaker: I had three brothers. George, and Frances, and Paul.
The're all deceased now.
Interviewer:
Tell me something about your life in Sharon as an adult.
Bowmaker: Well, it was very interesting, especially in the summer
when Sharon was a very thriving community in the summer, at least 10,000
people came here for the treatments and so on, in the summer. There
was horseback riding and swimming pool, and tennis, and of course we
had a theater here too. One time they had open air theater in the park,
it was very interesting.
Interviewer:
The I Spy project is particularly interested in some of the old buildings
in Sharon Springs, one of those buildings is the Trinity Church. What
connection did you have with the Trinity Church?
Bowmaker: I was a member of the church.
Interviewer:
What was your part in it? What did you do?
Bowmaker: Yes, I attended the Episcopal Church. My whole family
did. They were Episcopalians. And there was Sunday School every Sunday
preceding church.
Interviewer:
Who were the Sunday School teachers?
Bowmaker: We had no Sunday School teachers, the priest was usually
our Sunday School teacher.
Interviewer:
What did you learn in Sunday School?
Bowmaker: We learned primarily about the Bible. The life of Jesus
and etc.
Interviewer:
Please describe the interior of the Trinity Episcopal Church when you
attended there.
Bowmaker: The roof of the Episcopal Church was designed after
the bow of Noah's Ark. It was a very, very, very impressive church.
The altar is still beautiful and still remains in the church, they never
did get rid of it. The entryway was very, very lovely, it had the baptismal
font to the right as you came in the front entrance. The font for Baptismal
is never in the front of the church, its always in the rear of the church.
And most of the baptismals were done privately. It wasn't done during
services.
Interviewer:
How many people can be seated in your church?
Bowmaker: I would say anywhere from 150 - 175 people.
Interviewer:
Was there an organ in the church?
Bowmaker: Yes, we had a pipe organ.
Interviewer:
Where was it located?
Bowmaker: To the front right.
Interviewer:
Do you know who played it?
Bowmaker: Yes, Jane Becker
Interviewer:
Was there a choir?
Bowmaker: Yes.
Interviewer:
What kind of songs did they sing?
Bowmaker: Regular hymnals. There was about ten of us in the choir,
most of us were all he same age.
Interviewer:
Which was?
Bowmaker: About 16,15, 14.
Interviewer:
Who was the choir director?
Bowmaker: The priest was the choir director.
Interviewer:
Were there acolytes?
Bowmaker: Yes, I was an acolyte.
Interviewer What
did they do?
Bowmaker: Well, you lit the candles on the altar, and you used
the processional cross in entrance to the daily service.
Interviewer:
Were you an acolyte?
Bowmaker: Yes, I was.
Interviewer:
Please describe an ordinary church service.
Bowmaker: There was communion every Sunday, followed by the sermon,
the sermon and the regular service was first and then communion service
followed.
Interviewer:
How was Communion distributed?
Bowmaker: By bread and wine. And you went to the altar and you
kneeled in front of the altar and the priest put bread in the palm of
your hand and then he also served the wine.
Interviewer:
How often was Communion distributed?
Bowmaker: Every Sunday.
Interviewer:
Did children take Communion?
Bowmaker: No, you had to be 18 years old to receive Communion.
Interviewer:
Was there a First Communion ceremony?
Bowmaker: No.
Interviewer:
At what age did children join the church?
Bowmaker: Probably around six or seven.
Interviewer:
Did any children go to confirmation classes?
Bowmaker: We had confirmation classes, yes.
Interviewer:
Who taught them?
Bowmaker: The priest. You had to go through confirmation, I was
baptized in the Episcopal Church and I was confirmed at the Episcopal
Church. The bishop of Albany, Bishop Alden did the confirmation.
Interviewer:
Was there a special confirmation ceremony?
Bowmaker: Not really. It was very elegant and very simple.
Interviewer:
At what time of the day was services held?
Bowmaker: At 10:30 in the morning.
Interviewer:
Can you remember some of the priests who served at the Trinity?
Bowmaker: There was Father Armstrong who baptized me, and then
there was several after him, and one that I remember distinctly as of
late years was Father Jobley and Father Harold Thompson. That was Julia
Sampson's husband.
Interviewer:
How did you celebrate Easter?
Bowmaker: By a primary Easter service.
Interviewer:
What other special days did you celebrate?
Bowmaker: We only celebrated Holy days prior to Easter, and of
course Christmas was a big day too.
Interviewer:
When and why did the Trinity Church close?
Bowmaker: Because there was no - it was not the lack of finances
because the church was very well endowed. But, when you only have seven
families left, over the years elderly passed away and there was only
seven families left when it closed. All the interior of the church with
the exception of the pews, were taken out by the diocese and distributed
to other churches.
Interviewer:
Where are the church records kept?
Bowmaker: In Albany, at the diocese.
Interviewer:
What are your fondest memories of the Trinity?
Bowmaker: The weddings - how elegant they were, they were really
very, very elegant. All by candlelight. Beautifully. And of course many
funerals were held there, most of my family were buried from the church.
Interviewer:
Is there anything about Trinity Episcopal Church which you would like
to tell me about and I didn't think to ask you?
Bowmaker: The majority of the windows were given by the Morgan
family, most of the windows were Tiffany windows. They were very valuable,
and J. P. Morgan's family built the church.
Interviewer:
Thank you Mr. Bowmaker for the marvelous experience, I had no clue about
anything about that church.
Bowmaker: You see, at one time in Sharon, there was a great deal
of wealth. Primarily the wealth belonged to the Episcopal Church. And
it's the same thing today. I go to church now quite a bit, not -- because
- the service is at 11:15, which is good for me. I go to the Episcopal
church in Cherry Valley which is an exceptionally beautiful church.
Have you ever been in it? It is an exquisite inside. An exquisite church.
Interviewer:
Okay, thank you.
Bowmaker: I was also Janitor of the church. Had to build the
fires on Saturday.
Bakkom: How was
it heated Mr. Bowmaker?
Bowmaker: Huge stoves! One, two, three. Two in the main church,
and one in the vestry.
Interviewer:
Can you tell us something about the bell tower?
Bowmaker: The bell tower is still there you know, and the bell
tower is rung every Sunday, and upon a persons death and it was told
the age of the person, immediately after the ritual of burial.
Interviewer:
Will the church ever be opened up again?
Bowmaker: Doubt it. Although there's money, money left to the
church in escrow in Albany at the diocese in case another church should
ever be built. And the fact's well known, it was horse and buggy days,
today with the hill and parking, it would be almost impossible.
Interviewer:
Do you know anything about the parsonage?
Bowmaker: The rectory? Yes. Its, delightful. It has a fireplace
in the main living room, had a library, a beautiful library and lovely
dining room with a fireplace, rather a small kitchen with rather an
impressive entrance. And the rector and his wife lived there, naturally,
with their children.
Interviewer:
Thank you very much.
Bowmaker: Alright, Alright. Is there anything else you want to
know?
Interviewer:
If there's anything else you would like to tell us?
Bowmaker: I can give you a little "ditty" - during
the wedding of Margaret White and Paul Silverman. They forgot to bring
Mrs. White to the church.
Interviewer:
Then what?
Bowmaker: Well, they had to go after her, when they realized
she wasn't there!. (laughter) Right. But, it was a very very very impressive
church, and very well cared for during its operation.
Interviewer:
Do you know how old it was Mr. Bowmaker?
Bowmaker: I bet ya well, at least 200 years, if not a little
bit more, I do remember, I can't remember now. Bein' so old and decrepit.
(laughter)
Interviewer:
Tours of the church so we can go inside and see it.
Bowmaker: I can't. She wants to know if there will be a tour
of the church.
Well that all depends upon the owners today, and besides, I would think
it would be very disastrous because it's not like it used to be. They
have made more or less a home, rooms out of the main church, you see.
Interviewer:
Who does own the church now?
Bowmaker: I don't know who owns the church now, its been sold
several times.
Interviewer:
What ways would people dress back then?
Bowmaker: Well, when the Empies came to church, they were very
dignified people anyway, he would come in a black chesterfield with
a black derby, and his sister-in-law had a long hudson seal coat trimmed
with mink and they'd walk with canes, and nobody but nobody ever sat
in their pews. Most all families had their own pews.
Now, I can name
you a number of people that belonged to the church, I'll tell you about
this one lady, who was a great aunt of mine. Aunt Annie Swift, she lived
below the pavilion and walked every Sunday, when it was decent, from
her house, to the church. And she was an elderly lady too. Her daughter-in-law
used to own what is now The Cobbler Shop.
Then you had the
Harold Townsends, you had the Scofields, you had the Sampsons, you had
the Footes, you had Eugene Smith, Jenny Becker, Christine and Duane
Neal, Lolita Whinney and Caniff, the Bowmakers, and of course Mr. Muller
and his wife when they were here in the summer.
You had some of
the Claussen family who attended the church. Clara Foote was a very
good patron of the church. Oh, and the Stick family who were druggist's
in town here, they were very good members of the church. Smith and Mabel,
Arthur Smith and his wife.
Interviewer:
You mentioned the Smith's. Which Smiths were they? Were they the ones
that built the Smith-Empie swimming pool?
Bowmaker: Yes, they were all members of the church. My uncle
was Senior Bowmaker Smith, and Mabel, then there was John Empie, then
there was Arthur Smith. At one time owned the swimming pool downtown.
It was all interesting. Those days are long gone, not to be returned
.
That's it.
I will tell you
about the Christmas tree, in the church at Christmas time was a huge
cedar tree, huge, and it was, hooked with little candles about so high,
spiral and it had little things that would snap on and they would light
all those candles, and it would stay lit during the service, it's a
wonder it never caught fire. That's it.
Interviewer:
There are older people here but you are the oldest one that was born
here.
Bowmaker:
You see, Edgar, was born in Louisville, Somebody, he was older than
I am, he was born out west, I am the only one that was born here in
the valley. I was born in 1915. I am the only living survivor that was
born here.